Riain Barton/øéòéï áøúåï
2005-03-22 07:12:52 UTC
was replying to!!!
It was about a Jew who was refused service in a shop, and if you had
read all of that instead of sticking your nose into the middle of
something you might understand what is being argued now!!!!!!!!
But then what would you expect from someone with an e-mail address of
"The Department of Defense" <***@ss.mil> wrote in message news:email@example.com...
:I dont get this...... Can you explain it to me????????
: Vanilla Gorilla wrote:
: really wouldn't know, which is why I was asking. I grew up in Texas
: and Oklahoma, and then moved to Alaska, none of which are what you'd
: exactly call Jewish strongholds. I can honestly say, I am not sure
: I've ever personally known anyone who was Jewish, and if I have, they
: never mentioned it or did anything to indicate it. If J. Random Jew
: walks into a bakery in Hamburg to buy a loaf of bread, and isn't
: wearing any distinctive clothing or jewelry, and doesn't say or do
: anything to indicate he's Jewish, how does Equally Random Hun behind
: the counter know? If the Jew is wearing a Star of David on his lapel,
: or asks for kosher bread, that would be fairly obvious, sure, but what
: if he's not? Does the baker ask the ethnicity of everyone who comes
: in his shop who looks vaguely middle eastern? If five Israeli Jews
: and five Palestinians were in a room, and magically not trying to kill
: each other, could some German shopkeeper walk in and, without fail,
: point out which ones were which? They all look pretty much the same,
: to me.
: This has always been a puzzlement to me, probably because I've never
: been exposed to it. I just don't get it, and never have. Are there
: secret Jew-spotting techniques I've never heard about? Hidden cameras
: outside the entrances to all the local synagogues? And what about
: those Ethiopian Jews? Or Chinese Jews? They certainly don't "look
: Jewish", do they? And what about tourists? It's not like they are
: given special "Jew money" when they step up to the exchange booth, so
: that they can't buy anything without identifying themselves.
: Which Barton replied:
: Because in you irrational bigotry you fail to see that you do not know
: the whole story and have not seen it happen!
: Orthodox are NOT the only Jews that wear "Jewish clothing, etc.
: *My comment* where was the bigotry in this V.G.s. comments? I can
: nothing but blind hate in Bartons ....
: Then V.G. responded: Pay attention to what I put between the *s at the
: You've branded me a bigot, because I'm trying to understand something
: that doesn't make any sense to me? I'm not anti-Semitic by a long
: shot. I'm just asking some pertinent questions, that's all. Now, if
: some "evil Joo" banker repossessed your great-grandfather's farm and
: sent him to a debtor's prison, I could see how it might engender
: anti-Joo feelings that would inevitably get passed down through the
: generations, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm asking about
: someone getting treated differently for being a Joo, when there's no
: outward sign that they are one, and how much anti-Semitism is
: perceived, when it's really just some shithead being a shithead? As I
: said earlier, I really don't know, and if my asking the questions is
: offensive to you, that's not really my fault or problem, is it?
: Frankly, anti-Semitism is one of the prejudices I understand the
: least. If someone has personally fucked me over in some way, I'm
: going to hate them just as much, whether they're Jewish, Mexican,
: German, or space alien, and race don't enter into it. If they
: haven't, they're just some schmoe in funny clothes, and none of my
: concern. This is obviously not true of everyone else, which is what
: I'm trying to understand. If you're not going to try to answer my
: perfectly valid questions, you are cordially invited to go fuck
: yourself, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
: *I've heard the alleged justification for hating Jews because they
: "killed Jesus", which of course is patent horse shit. The sins of all
: mankind killed Him, as the Last Sacrifice, so that He could rise again
: and offer redemption to all who truly want it. It's not a reason to
: hate Jews, it it's just an excuse, and anyone who's studied the Bible
: and other religions without an agenda can recognize the difference
: between the two. *
: Jesus was fulfilling OT prophecies that went back a
: thousand years, in the only way they could be fulfilled. Everything
: happened exactly when, where, and how it had to happen. Trying to
: assign blame for something like that is futile, at best, and at worst,
: blasphemous. It's trying or claiming to know the mind and motives of
: God, which we are neither able, nor meant to know.
: Which Barton replied:
: Jesus never existed. And the slight chance that he did, he was not
: divine and he did not fulfil even one prophecy of being the true
: moshiach [messiah].
: My Comments: Barton took the WHOLE thing out of context. V.G. never
: anything bad about any Jews and actually said it was horseshit that
: believes that people could persecute Jews on THAT point. Which Barton
: AM CONVINCE IS A RETARD now completely ignored. I have always
: in these fora.... but you didnt seem to catch onto that, and just
: on how you dont believe in Jesus, (which is fine) but that wasnt where
: thread was going, or it was at least a negligible portion of the
: the thread... BARTON himself is a freaking bigot.... in different ways
: others but I am convinced he is one of them.. So whats going on here?